Interview - Coach Evan Smith (Mountain View HS)
Successful CCS Coach talks about Cross Country Season

Doug Speck - Editor DyeStatCal

 
photos by Hank Lawson

Mountain View Girls Varsity - Great CCS Finals Division II MacQuitty and Rowe

One of the impressive programs this past fall was that of Mountain View HS in the Central Coast Section, with Coaches Evan Smith and Adriel Rodriguez coaching the Girls team, with five underclass athletes, to a CCS Title Division II and sixth at the State Meet, and the Boys squad, with six underclassers, to a third at the CCS Meet and fifteenth at the State competition.  The teams were led at State by junior Mary Reynolds, with an 18:33 at Woodward Park, with soph Garrett Rowe closing down a great fall with a 15:41 at State after a classic Section Finals run at Crystal Springs. 

Coach Smith took some time to answer some questions after the season has wound down, with his candid answers giving us a good sense of what it was like in the trenches with one of the state's fine improving programs that will certainly be expected to draw more headlines in the next few seasons. 

DyeStatCal - What are your general thoughts as you look back on the season past and what your teams accomplished, boys and girls?

Coach Smith - Adriel Rodriguez (the other coach) and I are very satisfied with how things turned out for both the boys and the girls, and I'm pretty sure the kids are satisfied as well.  We didn't meet all of our goals, but we got both teams to the state meet, and the girls picked up the CCS title they wanted.

DSC - How did you think that the squads would do prior to the season, and how far off of what you thought they could accomplish were you?

CS - I had no idea the boys would accomplish what they did. We lost our top 3 runners to graduation, so they started out the preseason ranked 22nd in the CCS, which I felt was a little low, but even I did not realize how high they would rise.  I knew Garrett Rowe and Ian Myjer would improve (they are both sophomores who ran varsity as freshmen last year) but not THAT much!  My #3 runner (freshman Parker Schuh) came completely out of the blue ... I coached both of his older brothers, but Parker is definitely the most talented of the three.  My #4 runner sophomore Chris Wells also came out of the blue ... he didn't run with us freshman year, didn't run with us in the summer, almost didn't even make my 48 person boys team, and then just got faster and faster and faster as the season went on.  After those first 4 I have some very dependable upper classmen, some of whom battled sickness during the season, but it was basically those first 4 underclassman that completely changed the composition of our season and what we were able to do.

On the girls side, it was much less surprising.  The girls we had were the same as last year, so I knew what they could do.  Division 2 in the CCS was much stronger this year than in years past, so I was definitely worried about our ability to return to the state meet, but it all worked out OK.

DSC - Do you have your teams involved in any goal setting individually, or as a group, during the season, or do you just kind of let the results roll as they will? Explain--

CS - Mary Reynolds (jr) and Tania Morimoto (sr) let me know during the summer that they really wanted a CCS title. They were 3rd the previous year, so it was a reasonable aspiration.  We never sat down and discussed it as a team, because so many things can go wrong, but all of the girls are very driven, so I don't really need to motivate them with goals.  They are always giving it their all all the time.  Making sure they don't do too much is my main job.

With the boys, I mentioned to them that I thought we were underranked, and used that to motivate them.  My goal for them was to have a good showing at CCS in 2007, with the potential of them making it to the state meet in 2008, so we were one year early on that goal.

In general, I tell the team that my dream is 5 league titles in one year (BV, GV, BJV, GJV, BFS), but we still haven't done that.  We had 2 in 2006 and 2 in 2007.


DSC - What is your personal background as a runner and teacher that led to you being at Mountain View HS?

CS - I ran for Jerry Whitaker at Foothill HS in Orange County.  I did rowing and cycling at UCLA, and then cycling when I got my teaching credential at Cal Poly. I taught 4 years at Arroyo Grande HS, where I also learned alot about how to coach track from the coaches there.  I taught one year in Germany at an international school, but I missed my California
lifestyle, so I got the job at Mountain View and have been there for the last 6 years.  Samantha Read, who I also learned a ton from, had to return to Canada with her family 2 years ago, so I took over the head coaching duties when she left.


DSC - What did you ask of your team members during the summer period in the way of commitment to running
prior to this Fall season?

CS - I tell the team that the two most important things that you must do to be successful in cross country are July and August.  We run as a team together 4 days/week during the summer, and then they are expected to do a 5th day on their own.  They go on vacation alot during the summer, and I encourage them to keep running while they are gone.  We have a camp at Tahoe during the 2nd week in August, but we only take 20 kids, so they know that if they want to go to that camp they must be putting in decent summer mileage.  We also have a couple time trials toward the end of the summer that we use to decide who makes the team (with only 2 coaches, we have started making cuts in order to keep our sanity).  That decision alone I believe has helped with the improvement of our team as a whole.

DSC - With the relative youth of your teams, six of seven return for both your girls and boys varsities for 2008, and viewing the improvement of athletes such as Garrett Rowe over the last year, what do you think it is in your training that has helped the young group you have improve so much?  explain--

CS - I went to an LA84 clinic last August at Mt. Sac where I listened to Bill Gregg (Davis HS) talk about how he completely changed his program after listening to Steve Chavez (Murrietta Valley) talk about the Joe Vigil program that he has created there.  Those are 2 very successful programs, so I incorporated some of those things into my program.  I just listened to Steve Chavez yesterday, and I am going to do more than just some of his things in the future.  Adriel has also had the kids doing alot of core work, which I think has helped us tremendously.  Also, listening to the Ventura coach (I believe his name is Tyree Cruz, but I'm not sure) gave me some good ideas that I incorporated into our season.  Besides the core work, I would say the main thing that has helped us is the uptempo work ... rather than just go out for a long run, we had them run say a 20 minute portion of the run uptempo, so that there was more quality mileage than just mileage.  And we did some 2 mile repeats instead of just mile repeats, and we did some pure sprinting, all of which came from Vigil through Chavez and Gregg.

DSC - Were there general periods you divided up the fall period of the season into training wise, with varying emphasis during each? explain with maybe some discussion on how your training philosophy has developed--

CS - I do understand the periodization aspect of training, but I think I kind of blend the borders of each period.  So many things can happen to a runner during the season (sickness, injury) that you obviously go in with a plan but then you have to make adjustments for individual kids as you go.  It would take far too much space to explain everything here, but I do what most coaches do of trying to establish a base during the summer and then working in the anaerobic work as the season progresses.  More volume early, more intensity late, but still having volume toward the end (in other words I don't let the mileage drop too much during the post season) and still have intensity in the beginning (we didn't do much uptempo during the summer, but we did do some).

DSC - The race between Philip MacQuitty and Garrett Rowe in the CCS Finals appeared to be a real classic, with the two sophs racing 15:26 and 15:27 (MacQuittty winning) at Crystal Springs.   During the season "heads-up" Philip had Garrett's number comfortably (30 second win at Lowell Invite, nearly 30 second margin at Stanford same race, etc.).  What was the background to the build-up to the CCS Finals, how you guys set that race up, and explain how it went?

CS - 10 days before CCS was our league finals, which was the first MacQuitty/Rowe dual, which MacQuitty also won.  As you mentioned, Garrett had not been close to Phillip all year, so when Garrett asked me "What's the race plan, coach?" I said "Don't even try to stay with MacQuitty ... let him go ... I think you can run with the Santa Clara guys" etc.  Obviously, I didn't know what I was talking about!  I think in that particular race, Phillip was confident that he would win, even when they came FLYING down the finish straight neck and neck.  But Garrett hanging with him while other kids dropped off gave Garrett the confidence he needed to run with him in the future.

I did not give Garrett any particular advice going into CCS.  He pretty much has carte blanche to run the way he thinks is best, because he has yet to make any serious errors.  In retrospect, I did tell the team to go out conservatively so that they could all make a big push during the last mile, and the Palo Alto coach also had a similar plan, which might have led to the
following scenario:

At CCS, it was a fantastic race to watch, because there was still a pack of about 10 guys together 2.5 miles into the race.  It was like watching a cycling race, in that guys were looking at each other to see who would go first.  I remember Garrett complaining after the race that he could never see where Phillip was, so Phillip probably smartly stayed at the back of
the pack the whole time, and then did just enough to win. 

And I do want to mention the great TEAM race that St. Francis ran.  There were 5 teams with a real shot at winning that race (in my opinion all five teams were dead even), but St. Francis took control of that race from the first mile and truly deserved the win.  They ran their guts out that day.


DSC - What is your involvement with the distance group during the rest of the school year outside of cross-country, and if you are involved in track, how is the winter training period organized for your runners?

CS - I am the head track coach.  Last spring, Adriel was in charge of the distance runners and did a fantastic job.  Adriel will do the same this year.  My sprint coach got a job that is going to prevent him from coaching, so I will probably be the sprint coach, which I have done before.  At this point there is no organized training going on for the distance runners.   We tell them to take 2 weeks off after cross country, and then return to easy running.  We encourage them to lift weights and cross train.  The really dedicated kids are running on their own without me supervising at all.  Frankly, I need to rest during this time, as track is such an all-consuming affair.  Steve Chavez made me feel a little guilty yesterday, as he has a full-on winter program going, so I may do something more next winter.  I also have a huge portion of my team playing soccer for the school, so those kids are getting some decent exercise there.

DSC - What advice would you have for a beginning coach in a high school program?

CS - Go to clinics.  Be passionate about your team's success ... your enthusiam will radiate through the entire team.  Listen to the kids ... have team rules and stick to them, but in listening to the kids realize that there is an exception to every rule.  You must be willing to be there during the summer ... they will not run unless you are there with an organized program.  Run with the kids ... they will respect you more.  Be human in front of your kids ... admit your mistakes to them and they will respect you even more.
Be patient ... success takes time.

Thanks Evan
Doug Speck
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